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Changing Their Stripes

Sometimes you just have to pause and tip your cap to your opponent.  The Tigers have done something in this series that no one expected.  They've shown patience and have approached the A's pitchers in a method more reminiscent of the Yankees than the free swinging Motowners from the regular season.

They had an outstanding approach in every single game.  And Rogers obviously had a great plan on how to pitch against the A's.  It also helped that the A's approach was just miserable and as though the A's didn't get a scouting report before the game.

If you had told me before the series started that the A's wouldn't get a hit from Frank Thomas for the first three games, I would tell you they would be down 0-3.  And that's exactly the case.  Thomas carried the A's offense for the latter half of the season and maybe people have learned how to pitch to Frank a little more effectively or he's tired or he's pressing.  Maybe it's a little of everything.  But Thomas and Swisher are keys to this team's offense.  But Thomas more than anyone.

Stop the D'Angelo Jimenez complaining too.  No one wants Jimenez out there, but you're essentially down to your fourth infielder.  The truth is that you win and lose as a team.  The A's approach at the plate was awful, especially for an ump who had a very tight strike zone.  The Tigers looked like the green and gold today.  And you're never going to win a game without scoring runs.

The only objective the A's should have at this point is to try to get some respectability.  It's easy for all the columnists who were saying the A's were going to win this series to jump ship.  And even though the A's beat a team that was probably superior to them in the first round, expect to start to hear the familiar refrains about the team.  People love to hate our lovable muppets.

Congrats to Rich Harden on a successful postseason start.  You had an excellent game after an understandably rusty first two innings.  I truly hope that if we don't see you again in 2006, that we'll have you for an entire 2007.  The prospect makes me very excited.

Any way, the season comes down to Danny Haren against Jeremy Bonderman, the kid who will look to stab the organization that traded him away in the heart.  Expect to see an amped Bonderman tomorrow as he's always loved beating the A's.  This would be an ultimate victory for him.  Haren remains the A's hope to extend the series one more game and give Barry Zito a chance to end his career in green and gold on a much brighter note.

But truthfully, the A's need to be the patient hitters they've been all season long.  Make Bonderman throw strikes.  Take a lesson from the Tigers who've gone against the old saying and have been able to change their stripes.

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the Tigers have played like
the better team, so they have deserved to win. I'm not blaming anyone.

If the A's have any chance -- even to make this series a bit closer than it has been -- they are going to have to play like the better team.

On a lighter note, Tim Hudson will be on the postgame show.

by OaklandSi on Oct 13, 2006 4:52 PM PDT   0 recs

Couldn't agree more...
The Tigers are playing like the better team, we can injuries as an excuse, but the fact is that they've had them too.  They're on a roll, ya tip your cap, hope you can get one game to avoid the sweep or two to take it back to Oaktown, but this Tigers team is just playing on another level.  

I'm just glad I didn't have to go into the off season thinking that 0-12 in clinching games was still there.

Hey great year so far, considering the injuries we've had I'm VERY pleased with this season.

by Rickey35 on Oct 13, 2006 5:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Tigers are just playing like they always do
They won games like this all year, with solid pitching and bunches of singles. They don't have a real power hitter on their team, but they have a bunch of guys who make contact with the ball and run hard. They didn't change their stripes, they're playing their game.

The A's are the ones who seem to be so fixated on "post-season baseball" being so different they have to go out there and try and be something they aren't.

To me, the most encouraging thing that happened today was Nick Swisher actually putting a ball in play. He got thrown out, but at least the Puddy Tats had to work a little for the out.

It would be nice if the A's would play at least one game in Detroit as they played all season, and super-nice if the Tigers would play like they did oin their late-season tailspin. That's the only thing that can turn this turkey around.

The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by Mossback on Oct 13, 2006 6:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I totally agree
Like it in other times in life,  you just have to tip your hat to better teams.  
"I try to figure this team out, and if I could, I'd be a genius," Mark Ellis

by tinez on Oct 14, 2006 1:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Tigers are singles hitters
who don't have power hitters?
On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Oct 13, 2006 10:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pretty much
They don't have any long-ball guys who compare to Uncle Milt, Hurt, or Swish.
The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by Mossback on Oct 13, 2006 11:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Marcus Thames? Craig Monroe? Curtis Granderson?
Brandon Inge?

Have you looked at the A's slugging percentage? The Tigers?

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Oct 14, 2006 12:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not a single 30-HR guy on their team.
Just a bunch of guys with good power.  No one with great power.  

Then again, that could also be a product of that ginormous ballpark.

by bigthree17 on Oct 14, 2006 12:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Detroit had a slugging
percentage of 449, 6th in the majors. Oakland had a slugging of 412, 27th in the majors.

For comparison, the White Sox were 1st with 464, the Pirates last, with 397.

Just because the Tigers don't have a guy who achieved some arbitrary number doesn't mean that they have less power than the A's.

Pretty much all the Tigers starters, with the exception of Sean Casey, have good or at least decent extra base hit abilities.

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Oct 14, 2006 8:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In this series it's been singles and walks
Check out the team stats at MLB.

In this series, the Tigers have 28 hits: 18 singles, 5 doubles, 5 homers. The A's have 21 hits: 13 singles, 5 doubles, and 3 homers. The Tigers have an OBP of .356 to .290 for the A's. That's the difference in the series, not the two extra homers.

Another big stat is 24 SOs for the A's, and only 15 for the Puddy Tats. The only A who can score on a strikeout is Scutaro, and he needs to be on second base to do it.

The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by Mossback on Oct 14, 2006 11:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My point was that
throughout the regular season, Detroit was a team that was capable of getting extra base hits.
On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Oct 14, 2006 11:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh and if anything
The A's have no pressure now.  Let's make sure that the old saying that the last win is the hardest to get stands true tomorrow.

by Blez on Oct 13, 2006 4:53 PM PDT   0 recs

but that pressure will build with each
scoreless inning in game 4.
a manager, my kingdom for a manager!

by ak_A on Oct 13, 2006 4:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm keeping some hope for a 4 game win streak
That's all there is to it, we need our guys to play like they're capable of, timely walks and hitting and some great pitching...we can do it.

by tomoyo on Oct 13, 2006 4:56 PM PDT   0 recs

nice summary
i'd like to see the a's show some fire
and passion. i wouldnt have minded if
payton charged the mound today after
rogers struck him out in the 7th and
had a rather extended celebration on
the mound. i dont like to see the a's
just take this crap tamely without a
fight.

apart from bradley, kotsay and at times
kendall there hasnt been another player
whose shown me that he really and truly
cares. and as a fan that's what really
bugs me.

by oak1 on Oct 13, 2006 4:56 PM PDT   0 recs

Dude you need to start watching hockey
instead if you wanted Payton to charge the mound ;-)

by Blez on Oct 13, 2006 5:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

well ...
it did look like hockey season out there in
detroit today;)

by oak1 on Oct 13, 2006 5:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I Disagree
With You When You Say That The A's Are Not Playing With A Fire In Their Belly. I Was At Game 2 On Wednesday, And I Have To Say That Is The Most Intense I Have Ever Seen The Coliseum. The Place Was Rockin, And The Team Seemed Pumped. The Bottom Line So Far Is That The A's Have Not Really Been Playing Horribly. They Have Had A Ton Of Bad Breaks Over The Past Three Games, And The Loss Of Mark Ellis Is Glaring Obvious. If Ellis Were Playing Second In Game 1 And 2, It Would Have Been An Entirely Different Ballgame. Our Weakest Point So Far Has Been Our Starting Pitching, And I Think That The Detroit Has To Take Credit For That, Because They Were Able To Adapt Themselves And Play Our Game, And Caught Us Totally Off Guard.
"I Will Not Relent, I Am Driven"... Clutch
Bring Back The Bash!!!

by Shippee33 on Oct 13, 2006 5:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wow
you capitalized the first letter of every word

by AsFanTexas on Oct 13, 2006 5:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, my mind wants to stop
with each word....
a manager, my kingdom for a manager!

by ak_A on Oct 13, 2006 5:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

the colliseum was pumped
but were the a's? and if they were they
certainly didnt channel their energies into
the game. i think more there is more than
one player who played the first two games
with stars in his eyes just happy to
be there to care about moving one step
further. or perhaps the national attention
was a bit much for the younger players. i'd
like to see some guys actually feel a little
upset about losing games in the postseason,
rather than laying back and waiting for the
next day without changing the game plan.
especially if that game plan isnt working.

by oak1 on Oct 13, 2006 5:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Charging the mound...
Oh, yeah, that would've helped.  It might've made you feel better, but it would smack of desperation and just make Payton look like a fool.
"So, whatever, Ozzie." -- Nick Swisher

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 13, 2006 5:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

did you see the way Rogers celebrated?
after striking payton out. i mean talk about a guy being classless. it wasnt as bad as derek lowe back in 2003 but it was close.

i officially hate kenny rogers after today's game
for dominating the a's the way he has. and shoving
it up our nose for good measure.

by oak1 on Oct 13, 2006 5:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.
There's a difference between showing passion and acting pissed.
What are you, the AN bullpen fluffer? ~ salb918

by poetwee on Oct 13, 2006 6:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i posted this in the other thread
but in case anyone dident see if because its at the bottom

jimenez has a better series average
than:

thomas
chavez
swisher
scutaro

by AsFanTexas on Oct 13, 2006 4:58 PM PDT   0 recs

I love the A's. No matter what.
"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Oct 13, 2006 4:58 PM PDT   0 recs

Thanks Blez
I think all of these are great points. The A's seem to be having one of those streaks where the baseball looks like a BB. In addition I have always felt that in critical games payroll makes a difference. The A's had their chances in game 1 and let them get away. Unfortunately the A's seem to have already passed the hurdle that we all wanted to see. The old adage that it is a game of inches has played into this series. Nothing seems to be rolling the A's way. That includes having the game time moved from the evening.
I am not giving up but it is fair to give the Tigers and Leyland their due. Macha is a good skipper but Leyland is the man. I have a feeling  if Leyland was the A's manager that Harden would have started game 1 with Zito going in game 2. The rotation never lined up well for this series. Game 2 is critical and the A's wasted their limited offense on a weak Loaiza performance.

by yblood2hof on Oct 13, 2006 4:59 PM PDT   0 recs

pitching rotation
should have been zito, harden, haren, loiaza
as has already been pointed out several times
earlier. i just didnt see the merit of loiaza
pitching second but anyway billy beane made the
call and there you have it.

but i must say that with the way the a's offense
has been going this series the order of the
pitching rotation is probably immaterial to
the final outcome. unless we get our offense
going its going to be a short series.

by oak1 on Oct 13, 2006 5:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is the cap being tipped. <tip>
They've played like champions this postseason, they've certainly earned their way to this point. They're a good opponent. I just wish the team played better in the first two games, really showed the kind of team that they are.

The thing that really kills me inside is the idea that the Coliseum will sit quiet next week. That there'll be no more foul lines on the grass, no more drummers in the stands, no more chants and Stomper dances and endless hours of our boys on the field.

I love October baseball, and the idea of it ending is just heart-wrenching. The idea of never seeing Barry Zito stride out on that field in a white uniform with green socks at his knees breaks my heart. I wanted to see him in a World Series game. I wanted to see him stare down the competition in Game 1.

The past month and a half have been rough for me, but I've always been able to come home to the A's, and that means everything to me. They gave us one hell of a ride, and it's genuinely made a difference in my life. I'm not ready for it to be over.

Seeing them in the ALCS is amazing, even with the losses... And they may be down 3-0, but honestly, I'm not ready to give up yet. The boys were NAILS for quite awhile this season, they've made it so far this season, let's just give 'em some hope and joy and excitement until the very last minute of their ride in the playoffs. Because it's sure as hell not over yet.

We've seen before that it's not over, it's never over until that final damn out. Haren's a big game pitcher, tomorrow's a big game. I really believe these boys won't go down quietly -- let's make this a race. There's more baseball to play.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Oct 13, 2006 5:00 PM PDT   0 recs

<Sniff>
Wow.  Great post, Kyli!  

by AsGirl on Oct 13, 2006 5:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Amen Kyli
Nice Post.  If only I can see Zito have one more start as an Oakland A...I'll be happy!

by The Elephant on Oct 13, 2006 5:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It sure is hard being down this way
Try as we might, it's hard to find one person responsible. That would be too easy. Kendall has gotten his hits, as has Kotsay. Bradley (until today) had been very solid. Scutaro and Thomas did their part in the ALDS. The pitching was good today (after a rocky start). Jimenez hasn't wowed anybody, but he can't be blamed for a team of major league hitters being shut out.

Kielty DP'd in his only appearance, but the A's were already down 3-0.

Those things that went our way last week are not going our way this week, and here we are - in a position we all hate. And more than likely, we're going to have at least one more painful game where we all turn off the TV set after yelling at one more out in yet another painful inning of a frustrating game. Then, we count the days until Spring Training. It's how baseball works. 29 teams will go home frustrated. We just never want it to be us.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Oct 13, 2006 5:01 PM PDT   0 recs

Hitting lefty
Eternal Springsā„¢: The official October bottled water of your Oakland Athletics

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 13, 2006 6:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey I am not going to stop
my Jimenez whining. He isn't the main reason we are losing but he helps in that effort!

by IM4Oakgal on Oct 13, 2006 5:02 PM PDT   0 recs

thats a cop out
hes not supposed to carry us

thomas, chavez and swisher have made just as many mistakes as jimenez

this jimenez bashing is stupid, hes not a money player, hes not supposed to carry us

by AsFanTexas on Oct 13, 2006 5:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hey all-knowing AN veterans
before i knock jimenez some more, is it okay to knock Bobby Crosby for being a f-ing puss?  
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser" -- Vince Lombardi

by HugeAthleticSupporter on Oct 13, 2006 5:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

so being a athletics supprter means...
i can't criticize??
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser" -- Vince Lombardi

by HugeAthleticSupporter on Oct 13, 2006 5:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

calling names is criticism?
<is critical of HugeAthleticsSupporter>
Squeak!

by ArakSOT on Oct 13, 2006 5:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

criticize
  1. to find fault with
  2. to judge the merits and faults of; evaluate
American Heritage Dictionary, 205 (3rd ed. 1994)

Bobby Crosby is frequently hurt. This time it's his back, but it's always something.  In my opinion, he is a puss. Calling someone a name can qualify as criticism.

 

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser" -- Vince Lombardi

by HugeAthleticSupporter on Oct 13, 2006 7:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You're right
Crosby is always getting hurt, and so is Ellis and so is Harden. All in all the A's are a bunch of fragile flowers. Don't they have the budget for a conditioning coach?
The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by Mossback on Oct 13, 2006 11:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

<shakes Magic 8-Ball>
Outlook not so good.
AN apeshit!

by Jennifer on Oct 13, 2006 5:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

for the A's...
no.  But I didn't need a Magic Eight Ball to tell me that.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser" -- Vince Lombardi

by HugeAthleticSupporter on Oct 13, 2006 5:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

<Lotus Notes was better>
"Next thing you know, they'll have me taking an overdose of pills."--Milton Bradley

by jeepers on Oct 13, 2006 7:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Groupwise!
"so... I'll take that as 'none of your business'" ~ ArakSOT

by eamb on Oct 13, 2006 8:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How do you figure?
Do you mean 4th backup infielder?  
I think a valid complaint is that the A's want to emphasize defense, and are willing to tolerate o'fers offensively to get it.  Macha wants Kotsay in the lineup against the lefties over Kielty because he gives the A's the best defensive outfield.  Fine, I can accept that and get behind it.  However, your defensive infield is more important than outfield, yet Jimenez gets sent out there despite making defensive plays college coaches don't tolerate out of their second basemen.  Now, the counter argument is who would I rather have out there?  Ginter, for one.    He is no worse than Jimenez defensively, and I happen to think a little better.  He also has the potential to be more effective offensively.  I realize that the A's would have had to sign him for next year, but I just wish they would be honest when they give the reason Ginter wasn't added to the roster.  His defense had nothing to do with it.  Macha described it as "average."  Well, Jimenez is below average.

by IndianaAsfan on Oct 13, 2006 5:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

FiF?
Isn't he our fifth infielder? If Perez were healthy, wouldn't he likely be ahead of Jiminez? I haven't been thrilled with D'Angelo's performance, but you can't really expect to go that far down your depth chart and get a gold-glove-wearing power hitter. He's not the main culprit in the three losses.

by TempletonPeck on Oct 13, 2006 5:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's Our FIFTH Infielder.
If Perez were healthy, he's be starting at second

by Eck on Oct 13, 2006 8:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's actually the
seventh or eighth...
  1. Chavez
  2. Crosby
  3. Elllis
  4. Swisher
  5. Scutaro
  6. Perez
  7. Jimenez/Johnson
He's still sixth or seventh if you take Swisher out of the equation, and fifth if you just count middle infielders.

by IndianaAsfan on Oct 13, 2006 8:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How about
MaEl remorse instead of Jimenez whining.

by mikeA on Oct 13, 2006 6:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

There ya go Mike
well kinda. Noone is saying he(jimenez) is the only reason. But he's ONE of our problems in these playoffs. So get real. It's just as valid to bitch about him as it is to mention Frank Thomas having a silent bat.

by IM4Oakgal on Oct 13, 2006 7:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

re
A's match up well with Bonderman (or, well for a Tigers starter), but it's tough to get out of a slump by taking a lot of pitches though.  It might be more effective for them to go aggressive rather than taking pitches.  Tigers bullpen is so good that it doesn't help too much to get into it anyway.  See the ball, drive the ball...

Forget the series, just win tomorrow.  

by 31Boots on Oct 13, 2006 5:03 PM PDT   0 recs

Bonderman matchup
I don't think the A's have ever beaten Bonderman.

by IndianaAsfan on Oct 13, 2006 5:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

are you sure?
I don't have the stats in front of me, but I think they may have beaten him at least once, and perhaps more than once.

Of course, this is the postseason.

by OaklandSi on Oct 13, 2006 5:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My fault
The A's have pinned 3 losses on Bonderman, and hit .266 against him as a team.  I have no idea what I was thinking - too much Kenny Rogers, I guess.
Thanks for the correction.

by IndianaAsfan on Oct 13, 2006 5:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Blez....Great writeup
You have a true talent for summarizing everything well in just a few paragrahs...and so soon after a loss.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 13, 2006 5:05 PM PDT   0 recs

Thanks, OP
The Tigers have just been great about changing their approach.  They obviously knew that Harden struggled with command his last time out, so they didn't swing until Harden proved he could throw strikes.  That's great advanced scouting and the players following a game plan.

by Blez on Oct 13, 2006 5:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I am convinced that ...
... the Tigers and Yankees batters suffered a Freaky Friday-type brain swap right before the Tigers' clincher. The Yankees were swinging first-pitch every AB, and the Tigers ever since have been the model of patience.
but jesus--rhyming is a pain in the ass! -- Rubin Sierra @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 13, 2006 5:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It is wild....
It is like they became a different team before the Yankees series.  All I heard was they are aggressive and dont work the count...and that is all they have done through 7 playoff games...Amazing transformation.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 13, 2006 5:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It looks bad right now,
and we may be near the end of the 2006 A's.  If that's so, I'm reminded of the parting line from the Bad News Bears.  Where the Yankees congratulate the Bears on not sucking as bad as everyone thought they should.  Tanner yells over to them "Hey Yankee's, take your trophy and shove it up your ass.  Wait till next year."  

Bring on the AL west champions of 2007.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Oct 13, 2006 5:05 PM PDT   0 recs

By the way
I felt like the A's had only THREE good ABs against Rogers today.  One was Bradley, Swisher and Chavez (who would've had a home run in any other field on any other day).  The rest of the ABs were just ugly.

by Blez on Oct 13, 2006 5:08 PM PDT   0 recs

Hang on a minute...
I just got a hold of the scouting report, and apparently Kenny Rogers throws a lot of soft junk down and away.

OK we're ready--can we start Game 3 now?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 13, 2006 5:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Scutaro's hit was a bad AB?
Not that four good at-bats is appreciably better than three, but going the opposite way, as Scutaro did, was the proper approach.
The A's seem incapable of making adjustments, and it has frustrated me for years.  I don't understand how you take the same approach at-bat after at-bat when it isn't working.  No adjustments whatsoever.  Someone needs to remind Chavez there is a left field as well.  I don't mind the lack of success when you're doing everything you can to be successful, but the stubborn adhearance to one approach is inexcusable from professional hitter, IMO.

by IndianaAsfan on Oct 13, 2006 5:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Couldn't agree more, Blez,
and if the Tigers win the ALCS I hope they go on to win the World Series; they deserve it.

The Jimenez whining is perplexing to me. The A's middle-infield, not by their own choosing is Scutaro and Jimenez.: A back-up and his back-up, starting, front and center. Put that out there for 162 games and you will not be in the playoffs, ever.

I feel I have only one legitimate whine and that is what I believe was a very poor selection for the ALCS rotation. People as wise and intelligent as the A's brass are should have seen the importance of getting Haren out there in the first three games over Loaiza and Harden, who--by no fault of their own--were simply not as likely to come up big.

But really, it wouldn't have mattered. The Tigers have simply been better at adjusting to the situation and doing what they need to do to win. Consider the hat tipped. But the white flag not yet waved. Not yet.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 13, 2006 5:10 PM PDT   0 recs

The lack of adjustments from the A's
is always disturbing to me.

by Blez on Oct 13, 2006 5:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Me too, and I think it's the real key
as to why the A's do better in long seasons than they do in short series. You can adjust to a poor first two months and compensate with a stellar last three months and in the balance you can be good enough to win a playoff spot.

You can't take months to figure it out and adjust when you're in a short series.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 13, 2006 5:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What adjustments?
You've been praising the A's scouting reports.  The Tiger hitters have clearly made good adjustments, but it seems to me the A's just ran into a wall in this game.

by mikeA on Oct 13, 2006 6:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

its called macha
who i think is a very good manager during the regular season. never panics, never makes hasty changes. but my god, look at leyland in this series. how many times did he tinker w/ the defense or the lineup to maximize his team? he tried to win 1 game at a time, inning by inning. macha kept the starters in too long in games 1 and 2, kept kielty on the pine until late today, didn't try to make his guys change their approaches a little at the plate (rogers throws junk, how about stepping up a little in the box, look for more breaking balls, etc.?), rarely bothered sending anybody out (or go himself) to talk to his pitchers during a detroit hot inning PRIOR to them scoring (leyland was masterful at this - it helped calm his guys down, plus mess up the flow of the game a little). don't think it'd change a whole lot, but maybe we'd have a game or two in the end. right now, i can't see us not getting swept.
"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Oct 13, 2006 7:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The irony being...
...Harden has posted the best for the A's thus far in this series.  Still, it floored me when they made him today's starter.
"So, whatever, Ozzie." -- Nick Swisher

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 13, 2006 5:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The only flooring...
Was that Harden wasn't the game #1 or #2 starter. We can't say he shouldn't have started at all? Right?

There's also the argument that Blanton should have started somewhere. (We're just looking for something resembling change)

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by louismg on Oct 13, 2006 5:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Right...
...but I agree with Nico that Haren should've started one of these first three games...and pitch twice (if necessary) in the series.  So I think they should've stayed with the original plan of Haren pitching Game 3.
"So, whatever, Ozzie." -- Nick Swisher

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 13, 2006 5:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs