If No Deal, A's "To-Do" List For The Rest Of The Season, And The Off-Season

by Nico on Jul 31, 2007 1:15 PM PDT in News

The trade deadline has come and gone, and barring a post-deadline announcement it appears that Joe Blanton, Mike Piazza, and the rest of the crew are still A’s. Assuming that the team we’ve known is the team we still have, here’s one fan’s view of how the A’s need to approach the time between August 1st and April 1st in order to return to being a contender in 2008…

THE REST OF THE SEASON

Donnie Murphy needs to play at SS every day. I am worried that Chavez’ return will put Scutaro at SS and Murphy on the bench and that would be a big mistake. The A’s need to find out what Murphy can and cannot do as an everyday SS. My suspicion is that Murphy is good enough to be a real plus option as a platoon player that his range and his hitting against RHP will prove not quite good enough to be the right SS option over 150 games. Assuming Murphy is not the answer, I would love to see the A’s make a play, over the Winter, for a long-term SS solution, and I would hate to see the A’s give Crosby “one more year to see what he can do”. We know what Crosby can and cannot do and we know what Scutaro can and cannot do. We have a chance to learn a lot about Donnie Murphy and we need to. Now.
The A’s should seriously consider shutting Huston Street down for the rest of the season. His injury scared me and it scared me even more to hear he was not feeling great after his first outing. Meanwhile, the A’s have Andrew Brown starting to throw better and featuring a 97 MPH fastball. Does Brown have what it takes to be a set-up man or closer? Why not use August and September to find out what Brown can do by throwing him into the closer role for two months, while resting Street to maximize the chance he can come back strong in 2008?

If August and September can’t bring us the excitement of a pennant race, perhaps it can at least bring us some valuable information about Murphy and Brown. (Quick, someone call Candice Bergen!)

THE OFF-SEASON

Everyone will have a different opinion on what the A’s should do, and Beane undoubtedly will have a different one yet. I believe the A’s are two pieces away from contending in 2008 and they are substantial pieces: A shortstop and a CFer, one of whom can bring a middle-of-the-order bat to the party. I do believe the A’s have the resources, though barely, to fill this tall order.

I think the A’s need to make one big splurge, whether it means spending money or spending talent. The A’s may not have a lot of money to spend but they have even less talent to spend, so it may be time to open up the pocketbook for one good gamble. With no appealing shortstops on the market, I would make a strong bid for Aaron Rowand if he can be secured for 4-5 years at 10-12 million/year. I think he would be worth it, because he provides a legitimate bat from the right side, plays excellent defense, and does it at one of the key positions the A’s need to improve.

Then I would look for the next A’s shortstop via trade. Might something along the lines of Dan Johnson, Dallas Braden, and Bobby Crosby fetch Felipe Lopez coming off of a down year? Between Lopez, the intriguing Chin-Lung Hu, and other possibilities, the next A’s shortstop is out there somewhere and he’s available for a package the A’s can afford to offer.

<dreaming> Buck, Barton, Swisher, Cust, Rowand, Chavez, Lopez, Ellis, Suzuki…Haren, Blanton, Gaudin, Loaiza, and DiNardo…Brown, Casilla, Embree, Duchscherer, and Street…A bench with Murphy and Denorfia…

OK, now I’m excited again!

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I cant believe they didn't make a move

Go A's!!!! Mike Scioscia is a fat tub of lard

by 3Chavy3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:09 PM PDT 0 recs

So is that final?

Nobody moved? Can I go back to work now?

"Ten times thy self were better than ten Hattebergs" -- Monkeyball, channeling Shakespeare

by iglew on Jul 31, 2007 1:10 PM PDT 0 recs

We don't know for sure

We just know it's 1:12 and nothing has been announced.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2007 1:13 PM PDT up 0 recs

murphy is not good

I would much rather see scutaro.

Lets go Oakland! Check out my blog:http://sportsrus33.blogspot.com/

by bballfanr33 on Jul 31, 2007 1:11 PM PDT 0 recs

Scutaro has no future

Murphy might not, but at least it would be good to find out, he is only 23/24 (not sure which) and the A's should find out if he does have a future. He seems to have more range than Scutaro who has none.
I know we all love Scutaro but be honest, he would be in AAA if it were not for the A's having nobody in AAA ready for a middle infield spot.

by china bob on Jul 31, 2007 1:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

Disagree completely.

No, he's never going to be a starter, or a superstar, but he's a fantastic and very veratile back-up, and that does have more value than many people seem to think. No matter who you have on your team, you're always still going to need back-ups, so you might as well have one of the better ones.

by UncleLeo on Jul 31, 2007 1:42 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yes but..

We have another person similar to that you describe in AAA: Gregorio Petit

by muffinpryde on Jul 31, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yes, and Petit will make $400000

instead of $2M.

And he's a much better fielder, if I understand correctly.

by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up 0 recs

Why?

We already know he isn't good.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

Agreed

Scutaro is inconsistent at the plate and makes to many errors in the field. He is a good utility guy to have, but seeing him as an everyday player for the rest of the season when I know Murphy could be developing isn't right.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

I agree

Murphy is not even close to the A's solution, and it won't take two months to realize that. It's obvious already. He is a downgrade on both offense and defense from Crosby.

by Slurve on Jul 31, 2007 1:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

Downgrade on Offense?

I beg to differ.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

No kidding.

How do you get worse than .220 with no ability to otherwise reach base? Neifi Perez wouldn't be a downgrade from Crosby at this point.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Jul 31, 2007 2:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

Unfortunately, bad though Crosby

has been, Neifi's been worse. 29 OPS+.

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Jul 31, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

Murphy is batting .163, and has struck out 6 time

in less than 30 ab's. He is not exactly killing the ball.

by theblackpearl on Jul 31, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

He just deserves a chance, that's all.

Nobody's claiming he's a lock to be better. It's a plain fact that you can't be worse than Bobby Crosby is at baseball this year, though, so there's nothing to lose.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Jul 31, 2007 4:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

Plus

A healthy Rich Harden, but we all know that can't happen.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:11 PM PDT 0 recs

absolutely right Nico

I have the same fear you have that Scutaro will be put back at SS. In fact, it is time for the A's to consider a utility man other than Scutaro. He is fine as a 2nd baseman but when he plays SS or 3rd he has absolutely no range at all, the A's need someone ot fill those slots for our regular injured players, perhaps Murphy, perhaps Petit or Pennington but probably not next year.
I'm still holding out hope that a trade was made and just not announced yet, please!!!!!!!!!!

by china bob on Jul 31, 2007 1:12 PM PDT 0 recs

Rowand = bad move

He's inconsistent, injury prone and having a career year in a walk year. Signing Rowand equates to signing a league average player with consistency and injury issues to Eric Chavez money.

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jul 31, 2007 1:13 PM PDT 0 recs

Have you

seen his Batting Average? He would be a god in the A's weak line up.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up 0 recs

He is playing in the NL

which is a weak league, and playing in a real hitters ballpark, beware of getting any NL hitters or AL hitters from Boston.

by china bob on Jul 31, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ya I thought about that

but anything he does is better than Kotsay or anybody we have at Triple A.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

Have you seen his career stats?

Last two years, OPS+ under 100. Missed a ton of games last year. Had one other good year in 04 (hence why I call him inconsistent).

Career OPS+: 106

Is that a guy you want to commit multi year big bucks to?

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jul 31, 2007 1:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

I'm So Desperate

for offense right now, I'd take it.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

He missed a ton of games

last year because he smashed his face trying to catch a fly ball (which he held onto I believe). I don't think that makes him injury prone. I don't believe he's missed substantial time in any other year, unlike Kotsay, Crosby, Chavez and Harden. We already have players far more injury prone than Aaron Rowand.
I'm sure you're against signing Rowand regardless of injury, and your arguments have merit. I just think the label of injury prone is misplaced.

by IndianaAsfan on Jul 31, 2007 2:06 PM PDT up 0 recs

How does a guy become injury prone

because he smashes into a wall one time?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up 0 recs

shabam

dun dun dun...

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

Rowand plays hard yes

And his injuries have mostly been caused by those freak accidents. But that's more of a reason not to sign him. I mean, what's to keep gritty, hard nosed Aaron Rowand from running into a wall and suffering a severe injury? That'd be pretty bad for the team, especially if they're paying him 11, 12 million dollars a year.

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jul 31, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up 0 recs

I think you need to reword

this argument. So, what you're looking for are lazy players who can hit but don't care about defense? I'd rather have a guy get hurt because he plays the game hard than because he has some affliction that cannot be diagnosed, or misses his chiropractor, or gets hurt while rehabbing. Rowand, compared to Milton Bradley, is one of the most healthy players around.

by IndianaAsfan on Jul 31, 2007 2:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

And

He's a proven winner, and there arent any of those on the A's, besides Piazza and Haren who both made it to the WS.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 2:10 PM PDT up 0 recs

Oh, come off it

Haren's a proven winner because he worked middle relief for a team that got swept in the WS... whereas Chavez, who's started for five playoff teams, isn't?

Give me a break. A bench player on a WS team doesn't become better just because his team makes the WS. Haren's good because he's a good pitcher, not because he once played on a team with Rolen, Pujols, Carpenter and Isringhausen.

by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2007 2:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

I was assuming <fe>

Right?

"Ten times thy self were better than ten Hattebergs" -- Monkeyball, channeling Shakespeare

by iglew on Jul 31, 2007 3:36 PM PDT up 0 recs

You'd have a better argument

if Chavy didn't have a career .640 OPS in more than a hundred playoff ABs.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Jul 31, 2007 3:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

Snarky

but completely irrelevant. If anything, it reinforces my point. Chavez was on many winning teams, ergo must be a "proven winner." Right? Regardless of his own actual contributions to those teams. Right?

Or maybe the entire concept of a "proven winner" is ridiculous.

by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up 0 recs

What would you call a player...

...whose team wins in spite of him?

Not saying Chavez didn't contribute, just questioning your general implication that a player is a "winner" just because he was on a winning team even if he grounded into double-plays every at-bat.

by UncleLeo on Jul 31, 2007 5:40 PM PDT up 0 recs

I'm not implying this at all

I'm sarcastically mocking this point of view. Obviously a player who GIDPs every time is not a productive player. Neither is someone who sits on the bench the whole time.

In a nutshell: Kenny Rogers won a World Series in 1996 by pitching like utter garbage in four games for the Yankees. This does not make him a proven winner.

by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2007 6:12 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hmm

David Eckstein is a proven winner. Let's go get him.

And he's not JUST a proven winner, he's gritty too!

Oh what the hell, let's make a run at Darin Erstad too.

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jul 31, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

No I'm not saying we should get lazy players

And really whether I use "injury prone" or not, it's not a big deal. Would you rather me rephrase it to say "Aaron Rowand gets injured alot"? I'll do that, but it doesn't change anything.

Bottom line, Rowand is a guy who gets hurt for various reasons and his injuries have caused him to miss a lot of time in the past. Some of his injuries are a cause of him making/trying to make spectacular plays. Based on his style of play and past history, it's reasonable to be expect him to continue to suffer these type of injuries in the future. Do you deny any of that?

Really, it's not just his injury history that's worrisome. Like I said before, this guy is very inconsistent offensively.

Add it all up and he's not a sound investment.

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jul 31, 2007 4:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

You missed my point

I don't care what you call him. Your arguments about his performance are persuasive. But the way you used gritty and hard nosed implied that you didn't value those characteristics and were mocking them. That's why I said you may want to re-word the argument, because I think you do, in fact, value those attributes.

by IndianaAsfan on Jul 31, 2007 6:17 PM PDT up 0 recs

We won't be able to get Rowand

anyway. He's going to very sought after.

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 31, 2007 2:13 PM PDT up 0 recs

True

but a guy can dream can't he? ;-)

by IndianaAsfan on Jul 31, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ok

I will stop pinching you.

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 31, 2007 2:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yeah, but

we gave Eric Chavez "Eric Chavez" money, and look how that turned out ... it's like paying a million bucks for a date with your sister.

VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Jul 31, 2007 2:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

The Internet has spawned

more lust for instant gratification than ..

than...

well, more than I can imagine.

As they say in Loouisiana, "Waidawile, waidawile".

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 31, 2007 1:15 PM PDT 0 recs

I feel

We can do better than Jack Cust in the middle of the lineup next year.

by migueltejada on Jul 31, 2007 1:18 PM PDT 0 recs

yes we can I would like to see Cust as our

number 7 hitter he would be great there

Go A's!!!! Mike Scioscia is a fat tub of lard

by 3Chavy3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

i'll say it again

crap...

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jul 31, 2007 1:22 PM PDT 0 recs

Murphy should be given a chance...

An Crosby should no longer wear the green and gold. We should try to see how good Brown can be in order to make the most out of parting with Bradley (which was probably a good move for everyone).

Does anyone know what did or did'nt happen with Kielty ?

by Carlos1118 on Jul 31, 2007 1:23 PM PDT 0 recs

Boston wanted him if Dye deal died

So, since Dye stayed with White Sox, perhaps we'll hear Kielty for a player to be named later.

It is phenomenal and uncanny how these people without names gravitate to the occupation of professional baseball players!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 31, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up 0 recs

Just pathetic...

We should have given stewart, kotsay, embree and piazza away. From my understanding of our "organizational depth chart" we have a three legged hamster as our second best SS prospect and an actual piece of granite (its carved as a human I believe) as our third overall OF prospect. I think we should at least pencil some humans in there...

I mean if the Angles offered a B or C grade prospect for Mikey P that would still be a good prospect for our system...

Nonetheless, excited for Doyle's return (and pending injury).

by CyZito on Jul 31, 2007 1:28 PM PDT 0 recs

Embree?

Give away Embree? Guy has a rubber arm, and throws 93-94 MPH. And, he's healthy.

by Colorado Fan on Jul 31, 2007 3:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

Kielty will be sent to Sac....

he won't risk losing his 07 salary

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Jul 31, 2007 1:29 PM PDT 0 recs

His agent no doubt working the phones

Getting assurance from a club that would pick him off waivers, or would sign him if he got his release.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 31, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up 0 recs

unless the A's outright release him

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Jul 31, 2007 1:30 PM PDT 0 recs

BB high on Gregorio Petit at SS

we may see him in September

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Jul 31, 2007 1:31 PM PDT 0 recs

where did you hear that?

Just wondering.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Beane not a big July trader lately

2007 - nothing
2006 - nothing
2005 - minor trades for Kennedy and Payton
2004 - nothing

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jul 31, 2007 1:34 PM PDT 0 recs

Other Gm's are scared

just shivering I tell you.

by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 31, 2007 1:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

When was Moneyball published?

Just asking.

by UncleLeo on Jul 31, 2007 1:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

Spring 2003

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jul 31, 2007 1:49 PM PDT up 0 recs

What a waste.

Can't believe they didn't do a thing.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Jul 31, 2007 1:41 PM PDT 0 recs

"Two pieces away" I pretty much agree with...

...but I would add a third. Something's gotta be done about the consistently weak clutch hitting and seemingly overall inability to drive runners in. Though that's more of a team thing, and not a "piece", per se.

by UncleLeo on Jul 31, 2007 1:46 PM PDT 0 recs

no deal? wow.......

i wonder if this means the pocket book will open in the off season for a FA or two? you know, start the ball rolling for the move to fremont?

any wish lists?

by greendatitiz on Jul 31, 2007 1:49 PM PDT 0 recs

the answer is no

The A's will try and take some cheaper options of some players who are past their prime and injury prone. I really can't see how the A's are going to make their offense any better next year with the same garbage they have on the field right now.

Go A's!!!! Mike Scioscia is a fat tub of lard

by 3Chavy3 on Jul 31, 2007 2:00 PM PDT up 0 recs

Since JoKe apparently didn't get traded...

does that mean we can stop "showcasing" his "talents" in the 9th inning now, and actually put in someone who's decent?

Larry Davis is an All Star: Further proof that literally anything is possible.

by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 31, 2007 1:52 PM PDT 0 recs

Please God.

Let them sit Kennedy down now!

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 31, 2007 2:14 PM PDT up 0 recs

They never were showcasing

his talents, any more than "more stuff happens on a night with a full moon".

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 31, 2007 2:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

unfortunately this team is in shambles...

we have nothing to build on aside form starting pitching, which will likely regress next season. Even with the outstanding starting pitching, it been proven that the bullpen is a mess, and the offense is just simply inept. Building around Chavez and Crosby has turned into a huge mistake...they are both poor hitters, non-existent RBI guys, and injury riddled. And neither Chavez or Crosby had good defensive years, which portends that those skills are diminishing.
Ditto for the major components of the bullpen..Duke and Street have pretty much peaked out as far as I'm concerned...they both suffer from chronic injuries and will never produce to the level expected of them. And lets not forget "King" Richard...the biggest disappointment of all.
The Oakland A's are a joke right now....they lack talent and they are CONSTANTLY injured. This makes them unworthy of playing at the MLB level and unworthy of many on this blog. What are we supposed to say to a BOS or ANA fan who uses the Choakland or Jokeland stuff? How can I argue? The Pathetics are more accurate than Athletics.
I am done giving the organization the benefit of the doubt, etc. I have been a fan since 1971, so I dont want to hear any bandwagon crap or otherwise...I went through the pain of the mid-to-late 70s and also the 90s, so I have seen some pretty awful clubs. The difference now is that they are a bore to watch play the game. The injury thing drives me nuts, and BB doesnt seem to address it all.
I'd like to see a completely new slate in the field, as unrealistic as that is...no more Chavez, Cust, Crosby, etc. I'd even part with Ellis, Buck, etc. just to see something new. Keep Haren, Blanton and Casilla and go from there.
What a disgusting year for baseball....

tdwclark

by tdwclark on Jul 31, 2007 1:55 PM PDT 0 recs

I agree with some of that

but I wouldn't say yet that Street is injury prone. That is fair to say with Harden, Chavy and Crosby but not with Street quite yet.

Go A's!!!! Mike Scioscia is a fat tub of lard

by 3Chavy3 on Jul 31, 2007 2:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

Adios

You don't seem like you know a whole lot about how baseball works anyway with all this RBI BS and thinking them "unworth to play in MLB".

And not wanting Jack Cust, LOL. You sir are an idiot, even I know that and I think Barry Bonds clogs bases for a living.

by Dusty Baker on Jul 31, 2007 2:02 PM PDT up 0 recs

adios yourself

the bullshit on this team is self-evident. Do you want to build a team around Matt Stairs? John Jaha? thats all Cust is...he's a novelty. He's great when he's hitting HRs, but he's so pitchable its not even worthy of argument. Thats the main problem with this team...they can be pitched to so easily. Every AB is so predictable so even mediocre pitchers throughout the league take advantage of it.
Who the hell are you to tell me I dont know baseball...have you been watching the plate approach the last three seasons? Everyone here and in MLB knows the team wasnt even good last year...they got lucky because the league was wide open (much like this year). They have been streaky, both winning and losing. Thats a horrible approach to a 162 game season.
And RBIs are BS? Maybe on your team if you dont bat runs in, you still win, but in the real world you are required to score more runs than the opponent. And RBIs are to come from the 3-4-5 guys in the line-up...thats why they are there: TO DRIVE IN RUNS.
The team sucks...of course its my opinion...everything on this site is opinion. However, the standings are what they are and the if you have been actaully watching the Oakland A's in 2007 you wouldn't even think about arguing that they suck.

tdwclark

by tdwclark on Jul 31, 2007 5:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

proven?

"proven" is for mathematics.

Otherwise, everything you wrote is simply "your humble opinion".

Suggestion: state your biased observations as "your opinion" rather than as "indisputable facts" akin to the measurement for the acceleration of gravity on Earth, the speed of light, etc.

thanks, oh, and "adios".

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 31, 2007 2:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

I dont need to state

that anything is my opinion...its self-evident as of course I cant "prove" anything, other than to point to the W-L record and observe why it is what it is.
This isnt Semantics 101...figure it out by utilizing critical thinking skills.
And save the self-righteous, indignant crap for someone who cares...

tdwclark

by tdwclark on Jul 31, 2007 5:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

I want some of what you all are somking

if you think Murphy is a better option than Crosby or Scutaro, or even if you think he COULD be a better option. What on Earth has Murphy done to win all these believers? Hit a couple seeing eye doubles? Big f'n deal. The dude is a .163 career hitter and is batting a hefty .160 right now for the green and gold. He is more than 5 inches shorter than Crosby, has less range, and a comparable arm. Murphy has never hit .270 or 22 HR or been an ROY or an projected MVP candidate (as is true of Crosby). He has never played a full MLB season, meaning that his durability is unknown. In short, Murphy blows, and the sooner we can get Crosby healthy, the better.

by Slurve on Jul 31, 2007 1:55 PM PDT 0 recs